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From:	mwforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Jeff Knope)
Date:	Tue, 29 Mar 2005 08:08:42 -0800

Hi Zehava,

LCSI's original IBM LOGO (1983) had the primitive define name list, which
permitted defining new procedures from within a procedure.  This was a
stunningly powerful primitive because it permitted creating programs whose
procedures could change as conditions changed, also known as Evolution.

Unfortunately, MicroWorlds has jettisoned that primitve.  (Let's encourage
LCSI to restore it.)   I can find no way in MicroWorlds to change the contents
of the Procedures Tab from within procedures, which I think is what you are
asking for.

One possibility for you would be to have a Project that already has the
procedures written.  Then the student may simply edit it in the Procedures
Tab, changing the argument values of commands like seth and setsh, etc.  I
think that's as close as you're going to get to what you're asking for.

--Jeff


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Zehava Wizman" <zehava_w@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <mwforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 5:55 AM
Subject: Re: [MWForum]some prepared commands, prepared icons - for children with learning disabilities


> Hi Daniel!
> thanks for your answer. What I mean is when pushing on some icon (prepared 
> before), the command will appear in the procedure place, for example: if 
> someone want to write procedure named fly
> to fly
> repeat 10 [setsh 30 wait 2 setsh 31 wait 2]
> end
> the student  will have icon,if it pushed,the word "repeat" with number
will 
> appear in the procedure , than he will push another icon,he will get
"setsh 
> 1", he only needs to change the number, fix it to his needs. This demand
is 
> for children with difficulties typing letter and remember how to write it. 
> If you have another ideas for providing  those children tools, that will 
> help them with their memory,typing and other learning disabilities
>                                    Zehava
> 
>>From: "Daniel Ajoy" <dajoy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Reply-To: mwforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>To: mwforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: Re: [MWForum]some prepared commands, prepared icons - for children 
>>with learning disabilities
>>Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 07:08:49 -0500
>>
>>On 29 Mar 2005 at 14:29, Zehava Wizman wrote:
>>
>> > Hi all!
>> > according to my wish, developing teaching program with MicroWorlds, for
>> > students(12-14) age with varius learning disabilities, I want to know if
>> > there are options to make icons with some commands,
>>
>>Hi Zahava,
>>
>>Turtles, with shapes on them, can work as icons.
>>
>> > that those students who
>> > can  get the command by pushing the icons and the commands will appear,
>>
>>Appear where?
>>
>> > like
>> > :fd  10,seth 90 ,setsh 10, so the student will copy it and change the 
>>value,
>>
>>Copy what? The icon?
>>
>>Daniel
>>OpenWorld Learning
>>http://mia.openworldlearning.org
>>
>>
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Hi Zehava,

LCSI's original IBM LOGO (1983) had the primitive define name list, which permitted defining new procedures from within a procedure. This was a stunningly powerful primitive because it permitted creating programs whose procedures could change as conditions changed, also known as Evolution.

Unfortunately, MicroWorlds has jettisoned that primitve. (Let's encourage LCSI to restore it.) I can find no way in MicroWorlds to change the contents of the Procedures Tab from within procedures, which I think is what you are asking for.

One possibility for you would be to have a Project that already has the procedures written. Then the student may simply edit it in the Procedures Tab, changing the argument values of commands like seth and setsh, etc. I think that's as close as you're going to get to what you're asking for.

--Jeff

----- Original Message -----

From: "Zehava Wizman" <zehava_w@xxxxxxxxxxx>

To: <mwforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 5:55 AM

Subject: Re: [MWForum]some prepared commands, prepared icons - for children with learning disabilities

> Hi Daniel!
> thanks for your answer. What I mean is when pushing on some icon (prepared
> before), the command will appear in the procedure place, for example: if
> someone want to write procedure named fly
> to fly
> repeat 10 [setsh 30 wait 2 setsh 31 wait 2]
> end
> the student will have icon,if it pushed,the word "repeat" with number will
> appear in the procedure , than he will push another icon,he will get "setsh
> 1", he only needs to change the number, fix it to his needs. This demand is
> for children with difficulties typing letter and remember how to write it.
> If you have another ideas for providing those children tools, that will
> help them with their memory,typing and other learning disabilities
> Zehava
>
>>From: "Daniel Ajoy" <dajoy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Reply-To: mwforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>To: mwforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: Re: [MWForum]some prepared commands, prepared icons - for children
>>with learning disabilities
>>Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 07:08:49 -0500
>>
>>On 29 Mar 2005 at 14:29, Zehava Wizman wrote:
>>
>> > Hi all!
>> > according to my wish, developing teaching program with MicroWorlds, for
>> > students(12-14) age with varius learning disabilities, I want to know if
>> > there are options to make icons with some commands,
>>
>>Hi Zahava,
>>
>>Turtles, with shapes on them, can work as icons.
>>
>> > that those students who
>> > can get the command by pushing the icons and the commands will appear,
>>
>>Appear where?
>>
>> > like
>> > :fd 10,seth 90 ,setsh 10, so the student will copy it and change the
>>value,
>>
>>Copy what? The icon?
>>
>>Daniel
>>OpenWorld Learning
>>http://mia.openworldlearning.org
>>
>>
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>>MWForum mailing list
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>>mailto:mwforum-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
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