GraphicsBasics6 /// OPPPS!

[mwforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Jeff Knope)]

Hi Jean,

Sorry for mispelling your name before.

Well, sure.  Throughout the code are references to the items you've deleted.
So now, when it can't find those items, it complains.  

I think it would be more helpful for us to discuss those larger issues of what
you'd prefer the whole thing to be like.  Surely you don't want a program to
demo just SETH, and nothing else.  Or do you?  

Maybe the idea of a separate page for each of the commands might help focus
attention on one thing at a time.  Then, maybe a page that has just the
Turning and Moving commands as a group; and one for the Drawing with
Coordinates as a group; and finally, all of them together, like it is now.

I think for a group of Logo teachers, you're all being surprisingly mute about
this.  Doesn't anybody else find this interesting?

For those of you who may have missed what we're discussing, there is a Project
called "GraphicsBasics6" attached to the 4/6 forum posting with that subject
line.  Please note in the text of that posting there is also a request for
information about one specific aspect of your experience with this Project.

Thanks,
Jeff


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jean Stringer 
  To: mwforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:16 AM
  Subject: Re: [MWForum]GraphicsBasics6 /// OPPPS!


  Hi,

  I thought it was working but now I get this:
  tto does not like [SETPOSlabel] as input in STOPMOUSEDRAW

  I thought it ws working boo hoo


  Jeff Knope <jknope@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
    Hi Jeanne,

    Thanks for the feedback.  I'm curious why you'd want to demo only seth,
and not the companion turning commands, lt and rt?  Or the associated moving
commands, fd and bk?  Do you mean you'd like a separate page for each of
those?  That might be a really good idea, especially for very young students.
It would be pretty easy to make it like that.

    Did you notice the program is organized to help distinguish those turning
and moving commands from the coordinate commands, setx, sety and setpos?
These are two different "mindsets" for moving around on a graphics field: the
former an "on-the-floor" turtle's-eye, horizontal view of the action; the
latter an "on-the-ceiling" or vertical point-of-view.  You may also notice,
the program demonstrates how these two approaches can be freely mixed in the
same drawing.  It seems to me those are all important insights for students at
some level.

    Since you didn't mention anything about the setheading textbox
misbehaving, may I assume it is working properly for you?  Wendy suggested I
send this to the forum expressly to find out if others experience the same
problem she is having with it.  I'm surprised no one has offered us any
information about that.

    --Jeff


      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Jean Stringer 
      To: mwforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 8:59 AM
      Subject: Re: [MWForum]GraphicsBasics6 /// OPPPS!


      I se that I had to unfreeze things to remove them. I have just the
program I want now.  Have No idea how it works but it does what I want it to.
:)
         Thanks!
           Jean


      Jean Stringer <sjbjeanmarie@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
          I am not sure about this project, I will have to study it a bit
more.   I have MWXP on this machine.  I opened it and I would really like to
have JUST the grid the compas the little red turtle and setheading box.  I
know it the seth shows at the bottom of the screen, but I think this would be
a really neat program to demo seth.  I can't figure out how to remove
everything else and just have what I want as the project. 

          Thanks for any help.

                         Jean



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Hi Jean,

 

Sorry for mispelling your name before.

 

Well, sure.  Throughout the code are references to the items you've deleted.  So now, when it can't find those items, it complains. 

 

I think it would be more helpful for us to discuss those larger issues of what you'd prefer the whole thing to be like.  Surely you don't want a program to demo just SETH, and nothing else.  Or do you? 

 

Maybe the idea of a separate page for each of the commands might help focus attention on one thing at a time.  Then, maybe a page that has just the Turning and Moving commands as a group; and one for the Drawing with Coordinates as a group; and finally, all of them together, like it is now.

 

I think for a group of Logo teachers, you're all being surprisingly mute about this.  Doesn't anybody else find this interesting?

 

For those of you who may have missed what we're discussing, there is a Project called "GraphicsBasics6" attached to the 4/6 forum posting with that subject line.  Please note in the text of that posting there is also a request for information about one specific aspect of your experience with this Project.

 

Thanks,

Jeff

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Jean Stringer

To: mwforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:16 AM

Subject: Re: [MWForum]GraphicsBasics6 /// OPPPS!

Hi,

 

I thought it was working but now I get this:

tto does not like [SETPOSlabel] as input in STOPMOUSEDRAW

I thought it ws working boo hoo

Jeff Knope <jknope@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Jeanne,

 

Thanks for the feedback.  I'm curious why you'd want to demo only seth, and not the companion turning commands, lt and rt?  Or the associated moving commands, fd and bk?  Do you mean you'd like a separate page for each of those?  That might be a really good idea, especially for very young students.  It would be pretty easy to make it like that.

 

Did you notice the program is organized to help distinguish those turning and moving commands from the coordinate commands, setx, sety and setpos?  These are two different "mindsets" for moving around on a graphics field: the former an "on-the-floor" turtle's-eye, horizontal view of the action; the latter an "on-the-ceiling" or vertical point-of-view.  You may also notice, the program demonstrates how these two approaches can be freely mixed in the same drawing.  It seems to me those are all important insights for students at some level.

 

Since you didn't mention anything about the setheading textbox misbehaving, may I assume it is working properly for you?  Wendy suggested I send this to the forum expressly to find out if others experience the same problem she is having with it.  I'm surprised no one has offered us any information about that.

 

--Jeff

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Jean Stringer

To: mwforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 8:59 AM

Subject: Re: [MWForum]GraphicsBasics6 /// OPPPS!

I se that I had to unfreeze things to remove them. I have just the program I want now.  Have No idea how it works but it does what I want it to. :)

   Thanks!

     Jean

Jean Stringer <sjbjeanmarie@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I am not sure about this project, I will have to study it a bit more.   I have MWXP on this machine.  I opened it and I would really like to have JUST the grid the compas the little red turtle and setheading box.  I know it the seth shows at the bottom of the screen, but I think this would be a really neat program to demo seth.  I can't figure out how to remove everything else and just have what I want as the project.

 

Thanks for any help.

 

               Jean

 

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