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Hi Zehava, You're right, my first idea was to use separate pages rather than reconfiguring the menu on the same page. It turns out having additional pages vastly increases the filesize, while the appearance is exactly the same whichever way you do it. --Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zehava Wizman" <zehava_w@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <mwforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 1:01 AM Subject: Re: [MWForum]GraphicsBasics6 /// OPPPS! > Hi jeff > I think also, its better (especially for my needs - students with > disabilities learning ) to display each commands in seperate page,as you > said "maybe a page that has just the Turning and Moving commands as a group; > and one for the Drawing with Coordinates as a group; and finally, all of > them together, like it is now". > thanks, Zehava > > > > > > > > >>From: "Jeff Knope" <jknope@xxxxxxxx> >>Reply-To: mwforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>To: <mwforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>Subject: Re: [MWForum]GraphicsBasics6 /// OPPPS! >>Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:58:07 -0700 >> >>Hi Jean, >> >>Sorry for mispelling your name before. >> >>Well, sure. Throughout the code are references to the items you've >>deleted. So now, when it can't find those items, it complains. >> >>I think it would be more helpful for us to discuss those larger issues of >>what you'd prefer the whole thing to be like. Surely you don't want a >>program to demo just SETH, and nothing else. Or do you? >> >>Maybe the idea of a separate page for each of the commands might help focus >>attention on one thing at a time. Then, maybe a page that has just the >>Turning and Moving commands as a group; and one for the Drawing with >>Coordinates as a group; and finally, all of them together, like it is now. >> >>I think for a group of Logo teachers, you're all being surprisingly mute >>about this. Doesn't anybody else find this interesting? >> >>For those of you who may have missed what we're discussing, there is a >>Project called "GraphicsBasics6" attached to the 4/6 forum posting with >>that subject line. Please note in the text of that posting there is also a >>request for information about one specific aspect of your experience with >>this Project. >> >>Thanks, >>Jeff >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Jean Stringer >> To: mwforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:16 AM >> Subject: Re: [MWForum]GraphicsBasics6 /// OPPPS! >> >> >> Hi, >> >> I thought it was working but now I get this: >> tto does not like [SETPOSlabel] as input in STOPMOUSEDRAW >> >> I thought it ws working boo hoo >> >> >> Jeff Knope <jknope@xxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Hi Jeanne, >> >> Thanks for the feedback. I'm curious why you'd want to demo only >>seth, and not the companion turning commands, lt and rt? Or the associated >>moving commands, fd and bk? Do you mean you'd like a separate page for >>each of those? That might be a really good idea, especially for very young >>students. It would be pretty easy to make it like that. >> >> Did you notice the program is organized to help distinguish those >>turning and moving commands from the coordinate commands, setx, sety and >>setpos? These are two different "mindsets" for moving around on a graphics >>field: the former an "on-the-floor" turtle's-eye, horizontal view of the >>action; the latter an "on-the-ceiling" or vertical point-of-view. You may >>also notice, the program demonstrates how these two approaches can be >>freely mixed in the same drawing. It seems to me those are all important >>insights for students at some level. >> >> Since you didn't mention anything about the setheading textbox >>misbehaving, may I assume it is working properly for you? Wendy suggested >>I send this to the forum expressly to find out if others experience the >>same problem she is having with it. I'm surprised no one has offered us >>any information about that. >> >> --Jeff >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Jean Stringer >> To: mwforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 8:59 AM >> Subject: Re: [MWForum]GraphicsBasics6 /// OPPPS! >> >> >> I se that I had to unfreeze things to remove them. I have just the >>program I want now. Have No idea how it works but it does what I want it >>to. :) >> Thanks! >> Jean >> >> >> Jean Stringer <sjbjeanmarie@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> I am not sure about this project, I will have to study it a bit >>more. I have MWXP on this machine. I opened it and I would really like >>to have JUST the grid the compas the little red turtle and setheading box. >>I know it the seth shows at the bottom of the screen, but I think this >>would be a really neat program to demo seth. I can't figure out how to >>remove everything else and just have what I want as the project. >> >> Thanks for any help. >> >> Jean >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Do you Yahoo!? >> Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! >> >> >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Yahoo! Messenger >> Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Do you Yahoo!? >> Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. > > _________________________________________________________________ > FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! > http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > MWForum mailing list > MWForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://mia.openworldlearning.org/mwforum/ > Attachments archived at: > http://www.mathcats.com/mwforum/attachments.html > To unsubscribe or for administrative questions contact > mailto:mwforum-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Hi Zehava,
You're right, my first idea was to use
separate
pages rather than reconfiguring the menu on the same page. It turns
out
having additional pages vastly increases the filesize, while the appearance
is
exactly the same whichever way you do it.
--Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "Zehava Wizman" <zehava_w@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 1:01
AM
Subject: Re: [MWForum]GraphicsBasics6 ///
OPPPS! > I think also, its better (especially for my needs - students with > disabilities learning ) to display each commands in seperate page,as you > said "maybe a page that has just the Turning and Moving commands as a group; > and one for the Drawing with Coordinates as a group; and finally, all of > them together, like it is now". > thanks, Zehava > > > > > > > > >>From: "Jeff Knope" <jknope@xxxxxxxx> >>Reply-To: mwforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>To: <mwforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>Subject: Re: [MWForum]GraphicsBasics6 /// OPPPS! >>Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:58:07 -0700 >> >>Hi Jean, >> >>Sorry for mispelling your name before. >> >>Well, sure. Throughout the code are references to the items you've >>deleted. So now, when it can't find those items, it complains. >> >>I think it would be more helpful for us to discuss those larger issues of >>what you'd prefer the whole thing to be like. Surely you don't want a >>program to demo just SETH, and nothing else. Or do you? >> >>Maybe the idea of a separate page for each of the commands might help focus >>attention on one thing at a time. Then, maybe a page that has just the >>Turning and Moving commands as a group; and one for the Drawing with >>Coordinates as a group; and finally, all of them together, like it is now. >> >>I think for a group of Logo teachers, you're all being surprisingly mute >>about this. Doesn't anybody else find this interesting? >> >>For those of you who may have missed what we're discussing, there is a >>Project called "GraphicsBasics6" attached to the 4/6 forum posting with >>that subject line. Please note in the text of that posting there is also a >>request for information about one specific aspect of your experience with >>this Project. >> >>Thanks, >>Jeff >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Jean Stringer >> To: mwforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:16 AM >> Subject: Re: [MWForum]GraphicsBasics6 /// OPPPS! >> >> >> Hi, >> >> I thought it was working but now I get this: >> tto does not like [SETPOSlabel] as input in STOPMOUSEDRAW >> >> I thought it ws working boo hoo >> >> >> Jeff Knope <jknope@xxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Hi Jeanne, >> >> Thanks for the feedback. I'm curious why you'd want to demo only >>seth, and not the companion turning commands, lt and rt? Or the associated >>moving commands, fd and bk? Do you mean you'd like a separate page for >>each of those? That might be a really good idea, especially for very young >>students. It would be pretty easy to make it like that. >> >> Did you notice the program is organized to help distinguish those >>turning and moving commands from the coordinate commands, setx, sety and >>setpos? These are two different "mindsets" for moving around on a graphics >>field: the former an "on-the-floor" turtle's-eye, horizontal view of the >>action; the latter an "on-the-ceiling" or vertical point-of-view. You may >>also notice, the program demonstrates how these two approaches can be >>freely mixed in the same drawing. It seems to me those are all important >>insights for students at some level. >> >> Since you didn't mention anything about the setheading textbox >>misbehaving, may I assume it is working properly for you? Wendy suggested >>I send this to the forum expressly to find out if others experience the >>same problem she is having with it. I'm surprised no one has offered us >>any information about that. >> >> --Jeff >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Jean Stringer >> To: mwforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 8:59 AM >> Subject: Re: [MWForum]GraphicsBasics6 /// OPPPS! >> >> >> I se that I had to unfreeze things to remove them. I have just the >>program I want now. Have No idea how it works but it does what I want it >>to. :) >> Thanks! >> Jean >> >> >> Jean Stringer <sjbjeanmarie@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> I am not sure about this project, I will have to study it a bit >>more. I have MWXP on this machine. I opened it and I would really like >>to have JUST the grid the compas the little red turtle and setheading box. >>I know it the seth shows at the bottom of the screen, but I think this >>would be a really neat program to demo seth. I can't figure out how to >>remove everything else and just have what I want as the project. >> >> Thanks for any help. >> >> Jean >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Do you Yahoo!? >> Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! >> >> >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Yahoo! Messenger >> Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Do you Yahoo!? >> Yahoo! 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